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		<title>Flashback Q&amp;A with &#8216;Schoolhouse Rock&#8217; Songwriter Bob Dorough</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyndsey Parker]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may not have known  Bob Dorough by name, but if you grew up watching kiddy TV in the &#8217;70s and &#8217;80s, you (and your elementary school report cards) owe him a great debt. He was the Schoolhouse Rock! songsmith that turned the number eight into a heart-breaking ballad, zero into a hero, the number [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>You may not have known  Bob Dorough by name, but if you grew up watching kiddy TV in the &#8217;70s and &#8217;80s, you (and your elementary school report cards) owe him a great debt. He was the <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em> songsmith that turned the number eight into a heart-breaking ballad, zero into a hero, the number seven into a plucky trickster rabbit, the number nine into a pool-hustling tabby cat, and a conjunction into a railroad boxcar traversing a land where train-hopping vagabonds and curious ducks uttered compound sentences. He was the sweet singing voice behind the tour guide of the four-legged zoo and all three generations of the Lolly family.</p>
<p>Dorough, whose genius for making mundane topics fascinating and kid-friendly was uncanny and unmatched, <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bob-dorough-schoolhouse-rock-performer-writer-dies-94-001437487.html">died Monday</a> at age 94.</p>
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<p>First, a little history lesson, for those of you who didn&#8217;t grow up on a steady Saturday curriculum of &#8220;I&#8217;m Just a Bill&#8221; and &#8220;Great American Melting Pot.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em> (originally <em>Scholastic Rock</em>) began in 1971, when advertising executive David McCall noticed that his son couldn&#8217;t remember his multiplication tables but had no trouble memorizing nearly every hit song on the radio. He had his ad agency, McCafferty &amp; McCall, hire an established jingle writer to compose some math songs for a children&#8217;s album, but once he heard the decidedly nonrockin&#8217; results, he sought out a more unique songwriter. David&#8217;s co-worker George Newall, a jazz musician and enthusiast, suggested bebop pianist Dorough, who had worked with the likes of Miles Davis and Mel Tormé. McCafferty &amp; McCall hired Dorough to write a song about the number three, and the rest was musical — and mathematical — history.</p>
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<p>The weekend of Jan. 6, 1973, <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em> premiered with &#8220;Three is a Magic Number,&#8221; &#8220;My Hero, Zero,&#8221; &#8220;Two Elementary, My Dear,&#8221; and &#8220;The Four-Legged Zoo,&#8221; all composed by Dorough. <em>Multiplication Rock</em> was so successful (the accompanying album earned Dorough a Grammy nomination in 1974) that it was followed by three other series: <em>Grammar Rock</em>, the bicentennial-inspired <em>America Rock</em>, and <em>Science Rock</em>. Dorough continued as one of <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em>&#8216;s main songwriters, along with George Newall, former McCafferty &amp; McCall secretary Lynn Ahrens (who went on to write for Broadway and earn several Tony Award nominations), and David Frishberg. During its 12-year run, <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em> won four Emmys for Outstanding Children&#8217;s Programming.</p>
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<p>In 1993, ABC revived <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em>, airing not only the original classic spots but also brand-new <em>Grammar Rock</em> installments like &#8220;Busy P&#8217;s&#8221; (on prepositions) and &#8220;Tale of Mr. Morton&#8221; (on subject and predicate), and a new <em>Money Rock</em> series, which included &#8220;Tyrannosaurus Debt,&#8221; &#8220;Walkin&#8217; on Wall Street,&#8221; and a pre-inflation lesson on sensible allowance spending called &#8220;$7.50 Once a Week.&#8221; This revival also extended to an indie-rock tribute album featuring covers by Pavement, Moby, Ween, Folk Implosion, and Blind Melon; an off-Broadway musical; and a four-CD boxed set on Rhino Records. Clearly this phenomenon had gone beyond mere kitschy nostalgia; it was now a testament to the power of music to touch us and teach people of all ages.</p>
<p>In honor of Dorough&#8217;s passing, Yahoo Entertainment has unarchived this classic Bob Dorough interview, which first appeared in the &#8217;90s pop-culture fanzine <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh9bIMxgQ55/"><em>Porkchops &amp; Applesauce</em></a>. Unpack your adjectives, sit back, and read Dorough&#8217;s ageless words of wisdom here.</p>
<p><strong>Yahoo Entertainment: What made you want to get involved with <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em>?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Bob Dorough:</strong> When they explained that they didn&#8217;t want it to be too simple or too &#8220;writing down&#8221; for kids, I got a great thrill out of that. I thought it was a great opportunity to communicate. After I&#8217;d been on television for a year, I got to thinking, &#8220;Gee, is anybody watching this?&#8221; So I went to some elementary schools in Manhattan and volunteered to do a <em>Schoolhouse Rock! </em>assembly for the kids. I went to all kinds of schools, rich and poor, and did 13 concerts just before Christmas of &#8217;73. I would always start with [singing], &#8220;<em>Three is a magic number. </em>…&#8221; and you could see the kids going, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s <em>him</em>!&#8221; They recognized my voice.</p>
<p><strong>Did you expect that <em>Schoolhouse Rock</em> was going to have this kind of lasting impact? </strong></p>
<p>I sometimes say, the kids grow up and now they&#8217;re [older], and now they go to bars and drink! And they discover me again, playing at bars!</p>
<p><strong>Do you think there&#8217;s any irony to that?</strong></p>
<p>No, not really. It was designed to educate, but I attempted to write songs that would entertain anyone, from ages 2 to 92.</p>
<p><strong>Years later, you started doing new <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em> songs. How did it come back?</strong><br />
Because someone grew up to be 30 and had a job at ABC! Other guys grew up to be 30 and started a CD-ROM!</p>
<p><strong>And then you wrote songs for the new series?</strong></p>
<p>Yes. We did <em>Money Rock</em>. Actually, I only got in one money song ["The Check's in the Mail"]. I was trying to write another one that they never liked.</p>
<p><strong>What was that one called?</strong></p>
<p>It was about credit; it was called &#8220;Borrowing Money Ain&#8217;t Funny&#8221;!</p>
<p><strong>One </strong><strong><em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em> song that definitely wasn&#8217;t funny was &#8220;Figure Eight.&#8221; It was so sad, in fact, that when I was a kid the number eight actually had sad connotations for me.</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a little story there. I wrote it as &#8220;Figure Eight,&#8221; and I used to play it over and over and over. And my wife, who died in &#8217;86, kept hearing me and said, &#8220;What is that melody?&#8221; And I said, &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s a new song about eight.&#8221; And she told me, &#8220;Oh no, that&#8217;s too good to be a <em>Schoolhouse Rock</em> song!&#8221; So I started trying to write a different song, which combined four, six, and eight, but they didn&#8217;t buy it. They said they wanted one for each number. So I said, &#8220;Well, I&#8217;ll give you this &#8216;eight&#8217; song; I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ll like it or not.&#8221; And they flipped. It <em>is</em> kind of a sad song, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Yes, any time I see anything with the number eight, I just burst into tears. I&#8217;m kidding. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re aware of this, but there&#8217;s a rap band called Compton&#8217;s Most Wanted that uses a sample of &#8220;Figure Eight&#8221; piano melody as the intro to their album <em>Music to Drive By</em>. The way that they sampled it, it comes off as this dark, evil, foreboding tune that goes into this hardcore gangsta-rap thing. Taken out of the context of education, it seems like a very dark, moody song. Are you aware when bands sample your stuff?</strong></p>
<p>De La Soul&#8217;s &#8220;The Magic Number&#8221; is the only one I&#8217;m aware of.</p>
<p><strong>Did you like that version?</strong></p>
<p>Um, yeah, I did … but I tried to sue them!</p>
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<p><strong>What do you think of the tribute album <em>Schoolhouse Rock! Rocks</em>?</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great tribute. I like the fact that other people would want to play the tunes.</p>
<p><strong>Is there any particular track that is your favorite?</strong></p>
<p>I liked Moby a lot. Because he does &#8220;Verb&#8221;! And that&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening!</p>
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<p><strong>Did you ever see the <em>Schoolhouse Rock!</em> musical?</strong></p>
<p>Yep! It&#8217;s great, what they&#8217;re doing. Their acting, their sets, their costumes … it&#8217;s like they&#8217;re living out the cartoons!</p>
<p><strong>Aren&#8217;t we all, my friend? Aren&#8217;t we all?</strong></p>
<p><em>Additional reporting by Frank Meyer and Scott Chernoff.</em></p>
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<p><em>This article originally ran on <a style="color: #00ced1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/?ref=gs" target="_blank">Yahoo Music</a>.</em></p>
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