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		<title>Meet the Scene-Stealing Drag Queens of ‘A Star Is Born’</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyndsey Parker]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga may be generating early Oscar buzz for A Star Is Born &#8212; but two hilarious drag queens, Shangela Laquifa Wadley (real name: D.J. Pierce) and Willam (Willam Belli), stand out so much in the movie’s meet-cute drag bar scene that they nearly upstage the lead actors. Longtime viewers of the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga may be generating early Oscar buzz for <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tagged/a-star-is-born/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>A Star Is Born</em></a> &#8212; but two hilarious drag queens, Shangela Laquifa Wadley (real name: D.J. Pierce) and Willam (Willam Belli), stand out so much in the movie’s meet-cute drag bar scene that they nearly upstage the lead actors.</p>
<p>Longtime viewers of the Emmy-winning <em>RuPaul’s Drag Race</em> may recognize ex-contestants (and regularly working actors) Shangela and Willam, but appearing in one of the most hyped and critically praised major motion pictures of 2018 is taking these queens’ careers to an entirely new, mainstream level. And it turns out that Gaga, who was a <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lady-gaga-shantes-slays-on-rupauls-drag-race-season-9-premiere-010006865.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">guest judge on <em>Drag Race</em></a> last year, <a href="https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2458780/how-lady-gaga-helped-bradley-cooper-work-drag-into-a-star-in-born" target="_blank" rel="noopener">campaigned</a> to have the fateful meeting of the film’s characters, unknown singer-songwriter Ally and aging rock star Jackson Maine, take place in the New York drag club where Ally moonlights as a torch singer.</p>
<p>“Gaga f***ing loves drag queens,” Willam tells Yahoo Entertainment, recalling meeting Gaga in her early West Hollywood clubbing days. “I remember literally getting boys down [off the stage] so she could perform &#8212; ‘Get the go-go boys down, so Gaga can get up!’ &#8212; and thinking, ‘Oh my God, she&#8217;s actually really good. She&#8217;s not what we normally get in here.’” Adds Shangela: “I mean this in the most highest regard and respect way… she&#8217;s kind of like a drag queen with us. She&#8217;s an entertainer. She understands that world.”</p>
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<p>Gaga even handpicked Shangela for the film. “And what a lovely hand it is!” jokes Shangela. And first, however, Shangela — who had appeared in Gaga’s 2013 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ld9cZ7d_2A" target="_blank" rel="noopener">“Applause” lyric video</a> alongside several <em>Drag Race</em> alumni &#8212; assumed she was all wrong for the <em>A Star Is Born</em> part. “Originally, one of the drag queen roles that was out there was for a drag queen Marilyn Monroe impersonator. Honey, I don&#8217;t care how much time I stay out of the sun, I ain&#8217;t looking like Marilyn Monroe! … So I didn&#8217;t go in for the audition,” Shangela laughs.</p>
<p>However, Gaga was persistent. “A little time passed, and I got an email from Bobby Campbell, who is Lady Gaga&#8217;s manager. He was like, ‘LG &#8212; that&#8217;s Lady Gaga &#8212; has heard that you didn&#8217;t come in for the audition, and she really wants you to come in for this audition. She thinks this would be a good role for you, and you should go in.’ Now, if LG asks you to go somewhere, I was like, ‘Honey, where is my blond wig and my white dress?’ I went, I put my little beauty mark Marilyn mole on, and I went in there and I sang, ‘I Want to Be Loved by You’ for the audition. Afterward, they told me I didn&#8217;t get the role, but the casting told me they liked the audition so much that they wanted to offer me a different role that actually had dialogue and the character was more developed.” Shangela was eventually hired to play Ally’s play drag mother and the bar’s owner/emcee.</p>
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<p>Willam also almost didn’t make the cut. “Regular Hollywood story: My manager told me I had an audition. I said I was out of town. I flew home early to do it. Went from the airport, got in drag to the audition, and I didn&#8217;t get that part,” she says. “And then, there was another part they released, and I didn&#8217;t get that part, and then they called back and said, ‘Hey, we have a part for you.’ And I said, ‘Cool, can I see a script?’ They said, ‘Absolutely not. Just know her name&#8217;s Emerald, and she has lines.’ And I was like, ‘Cool.’ And then, once I got there, all the magic happened.”</p>
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<p>The magic happened because Cooper, who also directed <em>A Star Is Born</em> and actually called Willam “gold” during a recent press conference, encouraged the two hilarious queens to showcase their comedic chops (as previously seen during various Drag Race mini- and maxi-challenges) on the movie’s set. “He let us be ourselves, and there was definitely some improv and a lot of my jokes that he ended up using. It&#8217;s a huge compliment,” says Willam. “My favorite moment was when I did a rehearsal for one of the scenes and I could hear them laughing from video village. Gaga came over after and she&#8217;s like, ‘That was great. Bradley likes these two jokes, I would just flip them around and try it that way.’ And that&#8217;s what ended up being in the movie. It was the best set I&#8217;ve ever been on in my life &#8212; and I&#8217;ve been [acting] since I was 16 years old.”</p>
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<p>Shangela was also thrilled that Cooper gave her the freedom to improvise. “He was like, ‘I know what I want, but I want you to give me also what you&#8217;re going to bring. And if I need to pull you back, I will.’ I thought that was really awesome of him as a director to not be like, ‘You have to stick to these lines. You get to also expand if you want.’”</p>
<p>Willam was pleased with how Cooper got most of the details of the drag world right, too: “Other than some things in the dressing room! We were like, ‘OK, we would never use that.’ Me and Shangela were looking at this one boo-boo little wig, and we&#8217;re like, ‘<em>Gurl</em>, who&#8217;s going to wear that? Why is that even in the dressing room?’ And they had these nice real-girl makeup products that were gorgeous Almay colors, and we&#8217;re like, ‘Where are we going to use this?’” she laughs. “But other than that, yes, it was 100 percent accurate. It really honestly felt like a drag dressing room, because it was <em>cluttered</em>. There was girls&#8217; s*** everywhere. If you put drag queens in a drag dressing room, they&#8217;re just going to keep putting on makeup, and that&#8217;s all I did.”</p>
<p>Willam also appreciated that the incorporation of drag in the film didn’t seem like a novelty, some ploy for cheap laughs: “I actually feel like I was part of the cast; I wasn&#8217;t just like some drag queen they brought on for a joke” &#8212; and that it didn’t seem out of place with the rest of the plot. “This is a huge visibility thing for drag, but it&#8217;s not like the drag is pushed down anyone&#8217;s throat and it’s like, ‘You need to accept it!’ It&#8217;s just part of the character&#8217;s life, and drag is cool now, so who <em>wouldn&#8217;t</em> want to be involved with it?”</p>
<p>Willam even says the drag subplot humanized Cooper’s character and made the movie’s love story more believable. (In one romantic and adorable scene, Gaga’s Ally even puts false eyelashes and skinny Edith Piaf eyebrows on Jackson.)  “It&#8217;s great, because honestly, I think the fact that he&#8217;s in a drag bar, if you put that kind of character on paper and said, ‘Would this character be cool with drag queens and stuff?’ you might just think, ‘Eh, probably not.’ You know, grizzled old rocker,” Willam explains. “But the fact that this man in the movie, Jackson Maine, is cool and empathetic and interested, and doesn&#8217;t just go, ‘I don&#8217;t know what the f*** that is’ about the drag queens, really informs the Ally character about him. This is a good man, and he&#8217;s worth talking to. He&#8217;s cool with her friends, who are these different people who aren&#8217;t the mainstream performers of society. I think him actually being cool with us kind of really ingratiates Ally to him and makes him human. Sure, they show him drinking and taking a handful of Vicodin and stuff, but this is something like, ‘Oh, cool. He&#8217;s willing to keep an open mind.’&#8221;</p>
<p>Shangela says the drag bar setting was also key to Ally’s believable story arc as a struggling, insecure singer-songwriter. “I also wanted to make sure that the character relationship between myself and Lady Gaga, the character of Ally, felt authentic and real. … Ally works in the drag bar and she&#8217;s a straight girl, but she comes to our show because she doesn&#8217;t feel always that she fits in on the outside world, but here, this is her home.”</p>
<p>Landing this plum role is vindication of sorts for Shangela, who, many angry fans feel, was <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rupaul-drag-race-stars-crowns-043612000.html">totally robbed of the <em>RuPaul’s Drag Race</em> <em>All-Stars 3</em> title</a> earlier this year, and Willam, who was mysteriously kicked off Season 4. (Willam tells Yahoo Entertainment it’s highly unlikely she’ll ever compete on a future <em>All-Stars</em> season, despite being a fan favorite. Last year, she protested that former <em>Drag Race</em> makeup artist Mathu Andersen’s name had been <a href="http://www.clydefitchreport.com/2017/09/mathu-andersen-emmy-drag-race/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">omitted from the Emmys ballot</a> &#8212; ironically, for the <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lady-gaga-shantes-slays-on-rupauls-drag-race-season-9-premiere-010006865.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">“Oh My Gaga!” episode</a> starring Lady Gaga herself &#8212; and, she says, burned another bridge with the show as a result.)</p>
<p>Obviously, Shangela and Willam have gone on to bigger things. And while both queens have long résumés that include book deals, albums, talk shows, sold-out comedy revues, viral parody videos, podcasts, and roles on shows like <em>Nip/Tuck</em>, <em>CSI</em>, <em>Glee</em>, and <em>Bones</em>, they consider <em>A</em> <em>Star Is Born</em> to be a career highlight.</p>
<p>“If I die tomorrow I could die happy, because this feels like possibly the biggest thing I&#8217;ll ever do in my career, and I&#8217;m fine with that,” says Willam. “I get to be in a movie with <em>Gaga</em>. Everything after this is f***ing icing and gravy. I&#8217;m cool.”</p>
<p>“I feel incredibly grateful,” says Shangela. “This is something I&#8217;ve always dreamed of in my life. I came in the door of [<em>RuPaul&#8217;s Drag Race</em>] Season 2 with a dream and hardly any makeup on, and now to be here in this moment in this film, and to just be living the dream that I&#8217;ve always had &#8212; which was just to work as an entertainer no matter how &#8212; <em>I did that</em>.”</p>
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<p>The queens even got to attend the film’s star-studded Los Angeles premiere in their most gagworthy eleganza. “I was so thankful to be there and to be able to walk the red carpet and see Gaga in all her fabulous Alexander McQueen-ness,” Shangela gushes. “I got to take [my mom] to the after-party, where Gaga actually showed up as well. I got to introduce my mom to Lady Gaga. I was like, ‘Lady Gaga, do you mind saying hi to my mom?’ … And she gave her a big old hug. She was like, ‘You must be so proud of him. <em>I&#8217;m</em> so proud of him.’ Now my mama tells everybody, ‘Lady Gaga loves my son! Lady Gaga loves him!’&#8221;</p>
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<p>“The best night of my life before this was this moment at Burning Man, the first time I went there. And the best night of my life has now been replaced with this [premiere] night,” says Willam. “I was like, ‘Bitch, I&#8217;m wearing Bob Mackie, old-school, and I am jacking up my hair to heaven.’” As for what Willam might wear if she gets invited to the Oscars next year, she chuckles, “I&#8217;m just taking it one day at a time. Actually, one <em>night</em> at a time. I&#8217;m not usually up during the day. I&#8217;m a drag queen!”</p>
<p><em>Additional reporting by Matt Forte.</em></p>
<p><strong style="color: #555555;"><em>This article originally ran on <a style="color: #00ced1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/?ref=gs" target="_blank">Yahoo Music</a>.</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Lady Gaga Talks ‘Joanne’ Album, Dive Bar Tour</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 20:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lady Gaga’s voice pipes in over the phone, instantly familiar — but this isn’t booming madwoman cackle of “Bad Romance,” or the fembotic rap of “Lovegame,” or even the sexy vampire drawl of her recent American Horror Story character, the Countess. Lady Gaga sounds… normal. Chipper, unguarded, girly, even a bit giggly. She sounds happy. “I know this [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" style="color: #26282a;" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$1"><a style="color: #221ba1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/tagged/lady-gaga">Lady Gaga</a>’s voice pipes in over the phone, instantly familiar — but this isn’t booming madwoman cackle of “Bad Romance,” or the fembotic rap of “Lovegame,” or even the sexy vampire drawl of her recent <em>American Horror Story</em> character, the Countess. Lady Gaga sounds… normal. Chipper, unguarded, girly, even a bit giggly. She sounds <em>happy</em>. “I know this is silly, but how do I address you?” I ask her, feeling foolish the moment the question leaves my mouth. “Do I call you Gaga? Stefani?”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" style="color: #26282a;" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$2">She just chuckles gently for a moment, pauses, and then answers, a little quietly: “Call me Joanne.”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" style="color: #26282a;" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$3"><em>Joanne</em>, of course, is the title of Gaga’s <a style="color: #221ba1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/lady-gaga-announces-album-joanne-163400239.html">much-anticipated fifth album</a>, out Oct. 21. Joanne is also Gaga’s middle name, and the name of <a style="color: #221ba1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/lady-gagas-father-releasing-italian-204901045.html">her parents’ Italian restaurant</a> in New York. But most importantly, Joanne was Gaga’s paternal aunt, who died of lupus at age 19. Lady Gaga, aka Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta, wasn’t born until 12 years after her aunt’s passing on Dec. 18, 1974, a date that Gaga has tattooed on her arm. “What I know of Joanne is what she left behind, which was a lot of loss and a lot of tragedy in my family,” she says. (Earlier this year, during an <a style="color: #221ba1;" href="http://www.people.com/article/lady-gaga-aunt-rape-producers-guild-awards" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">emotional speech at the Producers Guild Awards</a>, where she performed her Oscar-nominated rape survivors’ anthem “‘Til It Happens to You,” Gaga revealed that a college campus sexual assault “tormented [Joanne] so emotionally that it caused the lupus that she had to get so bad that she died.”) However, despite never knowing Joanne personally, Gaga was greatly affected by her aunt’s legacy, and when Gaga reached her own 19th birthday, “That’s when I really decided I was going to hit the ground hard — hit the [New York] dive bar scene and the club scene hard with my music and playing out as a songwriter. It was really Joanne, and that story of our family, and the toughness that made us who we are, that gave me the strength to go, ‘You know, I’m going to live the rest of my life in a way that she couldn’t.’”</p>
<div class="iframe-wrapper Pos(r) My(20px) canvas-atom Mt(14px)--sm Mb(0)--sm" style="color: #26282a;" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$4"><iframe class="canvas-video-iframe Bdw(0) StretchedBox W(100%) H(100%)" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Xn599R0ZBwg?feature=oembed" width="300" height="150" data-type="videoIframe" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$4.0"></iframe></div>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" style="color: #26282a;" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$5">Gaga says<em> Joanne</em> is “a return to my roots in a very strong way,” and not just because it’s a tribute to a beloved, much-missed family member. It also back to her above-mentioned early NYC days, when she was playing Open Mic nights and opening for the likes of glam/garage band Semi Precious Weapons on the Lower East Side. (“Which was silly fun, and probably some of the best memories I have in my life.”) This is evident in the propulsive stadium-rock riffage of <em>Joanne</em>’s lead single, “Perfect Illusion”– or in that song’s uncharacteristically simple music video, during which a free-spirited, head-banging, fist-pumping Gaga rocks out at a desert rave with hipster producer Mark Ronson and Kevin Parker of Aussie psych-rockers Tame Impala, wearing just denim cutoffs, combat boots, a messy high ponytail, and a ragged, underboob-flashing T-shirt. One especially astute YouTube commenter actually said of the video: “This isn’t Gaga. This is Stefani.”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" style="color: #26282a;" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$6">Gaga (or Stefani, or Joanne) is even planning a “Bud Light + Lady Gaga Dive Bar Tour,” kicking off Oct. 5, for which she’ll eschew her usual massive arena productions for the sort of grubby, hole-in-the-wall venues where she got her start. “It’s not so much about taking it all off for the sake of it, like, ‘Here I am, I had all these costumes before and now I don’t!’” says Gaga, who assures that there will be “more costumes and lights and big shows” in her future. (One can assume that her <a style="color: #221ba1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/lady-gaga-headline-super-bowl-004702644.html">just-announced halftime show performance at next year’s Super Bow</a>l will be a very un-dive-bar-like spectacle.) “But to begin all of this, we’re going to wind back the clock — to the day I decided when I was 19 that I was going to go live the rest of the life that Joanne didn’t get to live.”</p>
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<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" style="color: #26282a;" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$8">Clearly, this is not the over-the-top Gaga of <em>ARTPOP</em> — and  for now, at least, that’s probably a good thing. While that 2013 album ultimately sold 2.5 million copies worldwide, it received mixed reviews, and while Gaga’s diehard fans, or “Little Monsters,” were supportive, many journalists were incredibly unkind — almost willing her to fail, dubbing the album <em>ARTFLOP</em>, and downright gleefully reporting on even the most minor setback in her personal or professional life at the time.</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" style="color: #26282a;" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.0:$9">Gaga admits that this backlash was “hurtful at times… it doesn’t feel good when you put that much time and work and effort into things, and people make fun of them, or shame you for things you’ve created.” However, she adds: “The thing is, you’re not always going to make something that everybody likes. You can’t be in this for the business of people liking you. That would just not be even the right thing to do! To have such a big voice in the world and to only care about people liking you — what’s the point, really? When I’m making records, I’m never thinking, ‘How can I make this something that’s accepted?’”</p>
<div class="Ov(h) Trs($transition-readmore) Mah(999999px)" style="color: #26282a;" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2">
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$10"><em>ARTPOP</em>’s promotional cycle also included a series of preposterous and misunderstood stunts, like a <a style="color: #221ba1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/bp/lady-gaga-roasts-herself-bbq-spit-gets-covered-092108015.html">South By Southwest showcase</a> that featured Gaga getting covered in rainbow barf by “vomit artist” Millie Brown, or an equally controversial Oval Office-themed American Music Awards performance in which Gaga played a Monica Lewinsky-like role alongside a presidential R. Kelly. Back then, some naysayers believed Gaga had at long last jumped the proverbial shark.</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$11">“You know, I do have to take responsibility that there’s an element of absurdity to a lot of what I’ve done in the past,” Gaga concedes. “<a style="color: #221ba1;" href="https://music.yahoo.com/photos/lady-gaga-s-10-biggest-controversies-1415921218-slideshow/lady-gaga-s-craziest-outfits-photo-1415830509257.html">The meat [dress] thing</a>, and confusing people, that has been part of my thing. And I wouldn’t even say necessarily that now that’s entirely different. I think that people seeing me take everything off, it’s making them ask questions as well — but what I’m hoping for is for people to stop asking so many questions about ‘why?’ and just listen to the music.”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$12">Following a career reboot via standout performances at the 2015 and 2016 Oscars (of<em>The Sound of Music</em> and “’Til It Happens to You,” respectively), a Grammy-winning duets album with Tony Bennett, and a stupendous <a style="color: #221ba1;" href="https://www.yahoo.com/music/lady-gaga-shakes-up-super-bowl-50-with-powerful-235840437.html">“Star-Spangled Banner” tour de force</a> at this year’s Super Bowl, Gaga now is more about the music than ever. <em>Joanne</em> in fact seems like the work of a indie-rock supergroup, featuring collaborations with Florence Welch (“Hey Girl”), Beck (“Dancing in Circles”), Father John Misty (“Sinner’s Prayer”), Queens of the Stone Age’s Josh Homme, Grimes producer BloodPop, Parker, and Ronson. Gaga is even playing some guitar on this album, with Ronson’s encouragement.</p>
<p>Gaga’s giggliness becomes noticeably more audible over the phone line the more she talks about <em>Joanne</em>’s special guests. She says of her Beck collaboration: “It’s a really fun dance song. It’s a great record. We started in Malibu. We were just hanging out for the afternoon and I asked him if he wanted to go into the live room, which is where all the instruments are for recording. And we just went in and I sat at the piano. I believe he was playing a Hummingbird guitar that Mark gave me, and we just sat down and started to jam and we wrote the song. It’s a killer, killer record.” Of Parker, she raves, “I couldn’t wait to work with him. That was love at first sight when we all got together.” Of Homme, she says, “He spent so much time with us on the guitars and working on so many of these records… He’s amazing. I was up for days with him, working. We had the best time. I could listen to him play guitar for hours and hours and hours. He’s just tremendous.” And she calls Ronson “a tremendously brilliant talent. My favorite thing about the work that we did together on the album is just the way that he inspired me when I was singing. The vocals on the record are very honest. I love the way that he hears my voice.”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$17">At this point in the conversation, Gaga gets so excited, she even starts reciting a few lines from her “Sinner’s Prayer” track with “fantastic poet” Father John Misty: “I’ve got a baby sister who looks just like me/And she wants nothing more than a man to please/Maybe she’s in too deep/Her love for him ain’t cheap/But it breaks just like a knockoff piece.”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$18">“Sinner’s Prayer” definitely sounds like a song for the ladies — for the young Joannes of the world, if you will — and Gaga says she “wanted to speak to a female audience… I’m excited that when I walk down the street now and people see me, that they don’t just see the outfit and can’t wait to take a picture. I can’t wait to lock eyes with that woman that says, ‘Thank you for writing <em>Joanne</em>.’ That’s my goal. I want to know that she heard me in a deeper place.”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$19">But <em>Joanne</em>, she stresses, is for everyone. “I really just want all those girls that have never really understood me before, or those boys that have never understood me before, to hear what I have to say about being me during this time in the world… I can try to speak to women, but I’m not trying to speak to these women in a way that they get all riled up and then they’re mad at their man. Or they’re mad at their girlfriend. Or they’re mad at their dad. You know? It’s the opposite. I want to speak to these women and I want the men sitting next to them to hear the songs and go, ‘Oh, I get it. I understand you now better, baby. I get you now, baby.’ Mark and I talked a lot about it: When speaking to women, when speaking to men, how could we make statements to women that men would understand and be a part of, and bring men and women closer, bring women closer?”</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$20">One <em>Joanne</em> track — with a seemingly unlikely collaborator, country songwriter Hillary Lindsey (Carrie Underwood’s “Jesus Take the Wheel,” Little Big Town’s “Girl Crush”) — is an especially poignant “girls’ song” with universal appeal, and one tied to the overall, underlying theme of loss inspired by the album’s namesake. “’Grigio Girls’ is about me and my girlfriend getting together to drink Pinot grigio and cry without our friend <a style="color: #221ba1;" href="http://sonjadndurham.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Sonja</a>[Dunham, Haus of Gaga’s managing director], because Sonja had cancer and we needed the time without her to cry about it, because we didn’t want to cry in front of her — because she was so strong, and she was keeping us so strong,” Gaga reveals, getting serious again. “It kind of started there, and then it turned into a song really about how girls get together to let it all go and pour our souls out. Then we started to play the song for guy friends — both gay and straight guys — and we just saw the look on their faces, like, ‘Oh, man, that’s so true. Now I get why my girl is like that.’ And then they were like, ‘Hey, why can’t I be a grigio girl, too?’ They want to be at the party, because the party is so inclusive. It’s a place where you can let it all out.”</p>
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<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$22">So now Lady Gaga is letting it all out — at dive bar shows, in her music videos, and on her most personal album to date. “When I started writing [<em>Joanne</em>], I thought to myself, ‘How can I connect to other people now at this point in my career? Through my music? How can I go deeper?’ And the truth is, I wanted to do the things that made me fall in love with music in the first place,” she says. “Just sitting at the piano and writing a song, and being about me and the music and a story I wanted to tell — something more autobiographical, something more personal. This transition in my career is me embarking on a new journey with Joanne in my heart, and I’m hoping I can connect with the world on a deeper level.</p>
<p class="canvas-text Mb(1.0em) Mb(0)--sm Mt(0.8em)--sm canvas-atom" data-type="text" data-reactid=".0.0.$0.0.0.1.2.0.2.0.0.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas-Proxy.$Col1-0-ContentCanvas.0.4.2.$23">“The thing is, once I was able to return to that, I was able to remember what’s important in life is family and friendship and connection and taking care of one another, especially in a time when people are so isolated and lost and afraid. It just feels really good to write a song that lays it all bare, and sing it and look my fans dead in the eye. That’s really the point of what I’m trying to do. And Joanne is giving me the strength to do that.”</p>
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