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		<title>Judith Hill claps back at trolls, takes back her power on &#8216;Letters From a Black Widow&#8217;: &#8216;I would&#8217;ve been terrified to do this 5 years ago</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Photo : Ginger Sole) Judith Hill triumphs on &#8216;Letters From a Black Widow.&#8217; &#8220;Give me chaos and give me pain, but you can never kill my flame,&#8221; Judith Hill proclaims on her audaciously titled new album, Letters From a Black Widow. And the singer-songwriter and dynamite vocalist has certainly endured her unfair share of chaos [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure><img class="imgNone" width="650" title="Judith Hill" alt="Judith Hill triumphs on 'Letters From a Black Widow.'" id="91062" src="https://data.musictimes.com/data/images/full/91062/judith-hill-ginger-sole3-jpg.jpg" /><figcaption class="caption">(Photo : Ginger Sole) Judith Hill triumphs on &#8216;Letters From a Black Widow.&#8217;</figcaption></figure>
<p>&#8220;Give me chaos and give me pain, but you can never kill my flame,&#8221; Judith Hill proclaims on her audaciously titled new album, <em>Letters From a Black Widow</em>. And the singer-songwriter and dynamite vocalist has certainly endured her unfair share of chaos and pain during in her 39 years. But as Hill sings on another track, &#8220;bad times make strong women.&#8221; And with <em>Letters From a Black Widow</em>, this soul survivor has made the baddest and strongest album of her unusual career.</p>
<p>A bit of harrowing background, here: In 2009, before competing on <em>The Voice</em> or appearing in the Oscar- and Grammy-winning documentary <em>20 Feet From Stardom</em>, Hill was set to duet with Michael Jackson at his This Is It farewell concerts in London. But then Jackson died suddenly, less than three weeks before his O2 Arena residency&#8217;s premiere date, and Hill ended up singing &#8220;Heal the World&#8221; at his globally televised memorial service instead. Hill later found a mentor in another legend, Prince, who produced her debut album, but she experienced an even more devastating loss when Prince also died in 2016. Six days before Prince&#8217;s death, Hill had actually been with him on his Atlanta flight when it made an emergency landing after he fell unconscious.</p>
<p>The grief and shock alone would have been debilitating enough, but Hill also had to contend with internet trolls — and unfortunately,  she still does — who cruelly blamed her for both artists&#8217; deaths and accused her of being a &#8220;Black Widow&#8221; who curses anyone she works with. And in her ambitious new album&#8217;s experimental central theater-piece, she confronts all those rumors and conspiracy theories that &#8220;Black Widow killed MJ and Prince&#8221; — and finally takes back her power. &#8220;That&#8217;s <em>not</em> my name,&#8221; she asserts on &#8220;Black Widow,&#8221; as she sheds the &#8220;scarlet letter on my back&#8221; for good. &#8220;Don&#8217;t call me that.&#8221;</p>
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<p><em>Letters From a Black Widow</em> is a bold and brave statement, written, arranged, and produced solely by Hill. Hill also provided much of the instrumentation (including electric guitar, which she taught herself to play during the COVID-19 pandemic), along with her family bandmates: her keyboardist mother Michiko Hill, who recently beat cancer, and bassist father Robert &#8220;Peewee&#8221; Hill, both Sly Stone associates. Elsewhere on the autobiographical rock &#8216;n&#8217; soul song cycle, which opens with a mushroom trip that sets her self-exploratory sonic journey into motion, Hill examines the trauma of her religious and perfectionistic childhood, her yearning to be a mother herself, and her fears that she sacrificed too much for her career. &#8220;After [working with Jackson and Prince], my name is always tied to them, and that&#8217;s been hard for me,&#8221; she admits. Like, &#8216;OK, what can I do to get past that?&#8217; I think this album is part of me reclaiming my story, reclaiming my name, and stepping out of that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Below, in a Q&#038;A that&#8217;s as candid and eloquent as her lyrics, Hill opens up about grief, mental health, fame, the dark side of social media, psychedelic mushrooms, Christianity, misogyny, motherhood, ageism, and why, as she declares in the track  &#8220;Flame,&#8221; she will never stop making music.</p>
<p><strong>All right, there is so much to unpack here. The album title alone! Or the line in the song &#8220;Black Widow,&#8221; when it says, &#8220;Black Widow killed MJ and Prince&#8221; — I literally gasped, out loud, when I heard that. What made you want to really go there?</strong></p>
<p><strong>JUDITH HILL:</strong> I was experiencing a lot of hate-trolling, people just saying, &#8220;Oh, she&#8217;s cursed!&#8221; Or, &#8220;Stay away from Stevie Wonder!&#8221; That sort of thing. Just people just being ignorant and basically accusing me of having something to do with any of it, which was really heartbreaking for me and really hurtful. It put me into a real depression for a while, because I was very sensitive and it was very triggering. I went to counseling for it for years and was too afraid to even mention it and was hoping that it would just go away. And it was really <em>not</em> going away. My counselor was like, &#8220;I think you should write about it just for yourself, just to give a place for it so that you can express yourself.&#8221; And so, it first became sort of an exercise, a counseling exercise. And when I did it, it was a very liberating experience because I realized, &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;d muted myself.&#8221; It was scary, but also very, very freeing. Giving myself permission to do that was very, very powerful. From there, I was able to write the whole album and take the journey — starting with [track 1] &#8220;One of the Bad Ones,&#8221; which came from a mushroom trip when I was with my friends.</p>
<p><strong>You&#8217;ve <em>gotta</em> tell me about that!</strong></p>
<p>It was supposed to be just a fun social trip at a hot springs near Joshua Tree, but I had more of a spiritual trip. All of a sudden I started to hallucinate, and the first thing I saw was a mountain in front of me. It was a mountain of pain. And I realized, &#8220;Oh, even though I&#8217;ve done all this therapy, I&#8217;m not free from this.&#8221; It was a big, tall mountain, just debris and garbage, and it [symbolized] all the baggage I was carrying. It was so powerful for me to acknowledge: &#8220;This is too big for you. You&#8217;ve been trying so hard to get rid of this mountain, but it wasn&#8217;t intended for you to get rid of. Stop trying so hard. Just acknowledge that there is this trauma in your life. Don&#8217;t run from it.&#8221; That was a very powerful trip for me, and I stayed in that space all night; while the others were partying and prancing around, I was having this spiritual awakening or whatever.</p>
<p><strong>It quite frankly pisses me off that you had these trolls — that instead of people having <em>empathy</em> that you&#8217;d experienced two huge losses at key moments in your career, only a few years apart, they blamed you. Were you surprised by that vitriol? Did that throw you?</strong></p>
<p>Oh, it threw me. I was really angry about it, and it also threw me off totally off into this depression. &#8230; It was constant, an onslaught of social-media messaging and hate. It was a very big thing that was happening to me and I internalized it, which what made it so poisonous, and why it almost made me paranoid. I was walking around thinking that the world was against me. It really turned into this mental health crisis. &#8230; That&#8217;s what really this album is about: uncovering shame and triggers and deeply rooted things that we&#8217;ve said about ourselves, and why something that someone <em>else</em> says can so deeply affect us. It&#8217;s because we&#8217;ve already said that to ourselves — that &#8220;you&#8217;re no good&#8221; or &#8220;you are bad.&#8221; If someone&#8217;s calling you a &#8220;Black Widow&#8221; or saying you are cursed, that can really be traumatic and triggering to someone who&#8217;s already not thinking highly of themselves. It really opened my eyes to a lot about myself and took me on a real journey.</p>
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<p><span><strong>Wasn&#8217;t it some tabloid that originally called you a &#8220;Black Widow&#8221;?</strong></span></p>
<p>Well, TMZ certainly did propel it when they released that article with a photo of me in between Michael and Prince, saying, &#8220;The same girl that was singing with Michael was with Prince before he died!&#8221; All <em>hell</em> broke loose after TMZ released that.</p>
<p><strong>Were there low moments when you kind of <em>believed</em> what the tabloids and trolls were saying about you? There&#8217;s a line in &#8220;Black Widow&#8221; where you sing, </strong><strong>&#8220;Maybe it&#8217;s true/Don&#8217;t get too close, I&#8217;m bad juju&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great question. I don&#8217;t think I ever felt like I was <em>cursed</em> or that necessarily something was wrong with me. But I grew up in a very religious world and was constantly told, &#8220;If you do something wrong, you&#8217;re going to hell.&#8221; As a 4th-grader, I stopped eating and went through a real crisis and they had to get three or four counselors, because I was just terrified of going to hell and things like that. So, I think it might&#8217;ve come from that, where I was terrified of doing something bad and thinking, &#8220;Well, I&#8217;m probably going to hell because I did this or that,&#8221; counting the list of what I&#8217;ve done bad, like Santa&#8217;s list or whatever. It was an early childhood thing. It was more core-level stuff about being a good person. That&#8217;s something I really internalized as a kid.</p>
<p><strong>Are you religious now?</strong></p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m still a Christian, but my journey with my faith has evolved so much to where I know how to separate out the nonsense and the institution and all of the manipulation, and still have a very more genuine, personal relationship with God that is centered on what I know to be true and what I&#8217;ve experienced now. But it did take a while to separate those two.</p>
<p><strong>Prince was famously religious. Is this stuff you guys bonded over or discussed?</strong></p>
<p>We talked about it a lot, yeah. He was very spiritual, very religious, and we&#8217;d have conversations about God all the time. But we didn&#8217;t really talk more about the punitive stuff. He was more fascinated by the origin, the narrative doctrine, Egypt, Africa. We never really talked about punitive damages of, &#8220;If you do this, this bad thing happens.&#8221;</p>
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<p><strong>Was there any part of you, from your childhood trauma, that thought you were being punished in some way, or that you had somehow brought these tragedies about? Or did you feel guilt that you didn&#8217;t stop tragedy from happening?</strong></p>
<p>There were moments when I was like, &#8220;If I could just rewind time&#8230;&#8221; I wish I knew what we learned, what we know now, about what [Prince] was going through. I wish I knew that. &#8230; I never would&#8217;ve suspected that he was doing anything like that. He was very healthy. He was healthy eater. I mean, his regimen of the lifestyle was very, very healthy. So, that was a shock to me.</p>
<p><strong>Going back to that emergency landing on the plane, I don&#8217;t know how much you knew at that time about Prince&#8217;s situation&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know <em>anything</em> until we saw him [pass out on the plane] and I was like, &#8220;Oh my God!&#8221; Then later on, discovering that there were pills and things like that, I had no idea that he was even doing that stuff. So, it was very much traumatic to be in that experience.</p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s so unsettling and tragic that both Prince and Michael died because they were taking prescription drugs to push themselves in order to get past pain and perform. It&#8217;s becoming an increasingly common tragic story; Tom Petty also comes to mind. As a constantly touring and working artist yourself, how did that knowledge affect you?</strong></p>
<p>It was really eye-opening, realizing how emotionally isolating it can be to be an artist and how there&#8217;s not much of a support out there. That&#8217;s why I love organizations like <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="https://backline.care/">Backline</a> that are actually really making an effort to provide mental health support to touring artists. We&#8217;re taught as artists to be powerful and strong and keep the magic going, and there&#8217;s never really a <em>chance</em> for any humanity. There&#8217;s been more discussion about mental health now, artists speaking about it more, which I think is fantastic. I&#8217;m the biggest advocate for that, just given my circumstances of what I&#8217;ve gone through, seeing the great heroes fall. I think they felt they had to be above humanity, and be perfect, and that&#8217;s heartbreaking. It&#8217;s very important, no matter how big of an artist you are, to make sure you&#8217;re getting mental health support.</p>
<p><strong>When you were going through all this, did <em>you</em> have the support you needed, or did you feel isolated?</strong></p>
<p>I had a lot of people reaching out and providing as much support as possible, which is just part of grieving and losing someone. &#8230; I think it became a more complex journey once this trolling started, and I felt I wasn&#8217;t really allowed to grieve [Prince] anymore. I was dealing with that, and it became more complicated.</p>
<p><strong>Did you consider quitting music, or pausing to retreat from the public eye for a while? From what I recall, you never did stop working.</strong></p>
<p>I never considered stopping, ever. I think it would be impossible for me to stop. I&#8217;ve actually never stopped. Maybe there are times where I&#8217;m frustrated with the <em>business</em> side of things, but making music and performing is just part of me.</p>
<p><strong>The business stuff is interesting. Obviously you&#8217;ve had a career that most people would envy. You&#8217;ve worked with so many greats. You were on <em>The Voice</em>. You&#8217;ve won a Grammy. You were in an Oscar-winning film. You&#8217;ve performed around the world. But there are people who probably think you should be an even bigger star and wonder why you&#8217;re not. You might even wonder that yourself sometimes.</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s an interesting thing&#8230; I feel like a &#8220;success story&#8221; that I&#8217;m able to write music and perform it in front of people who love it. For me, that&#8217;s a form of success. But yeah, we live in a world where something&#8217;s wrong unless you are playing Madison Square Garden. It&#8217;s like, &#8220;Oh well, sorry, you&#8217;re not there yet.&#8221; I feel really happy about what I&#8217;m doing. I think my story is a bit unique. I think I was prematurely thrown into the limelight with <em>This Is It</em> and <em>20</em> <em>Feet </em>after sort of just being a background singer. All of a sudden, everyone knew me. That was hard to navigate through. I was just a background singer, and then I was in a more celebrity-driven world than artist-driven.</p>
<p><strong>I seem to recall you had some offers and opportunities right after singing at Michael Jackson&#8217;s Staples Center funeral, but you passed on them because it didn&#8217;t feel right.</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, and then there&#8217;s been things I <em>have</em> gotten into that weren&#8217;t the right fit, but I did it anyways! The deal with Sony — that ended up being a huge lawsuit and the craziness that wasn&#8217;t right. I probably shouldn&#8217;t have done that. But you live and you learn. I think all those experiences make me who I am today, and I&#8217;m much better at discerning what feels right for me than I was 10 or 15 years ago.</p>
<p><strong>The Sony thing — is that when Prince surprise-dropped your debut album, <em>Back in Time</em>?</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, that was a big mess, and that&#8217;s a whole story in itself! That was a lawsuit. That was Prince and I&#8217;s record that [Sony] did not want to release because they were hoping for another album, but they were sort of shelving me and holding it hostage. Long story short, that was a mess.</p>
<p><strong>This week, the week that <em>Letters From a Black Widow</em> drops, marks the eighth anniversary of Prince&#8217;s death. I would assume that eight years later, most of the social media hate and trolling has subsided&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>No, no. Absolutely not.</p>
<p><strong>What? <em>Really</em>?</strong></p>
<p>It just continues. It&#8217;s really, really amazing. It&#8217;s a stigma that hasn&#8217;t stopped. It&#8217;s been very tormenting for so long, and it&#8217;s just something I have to live with. But that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s also very liberating to finally write this music and be like, &#8220;Yo, this is actually me clapping back&#8221; and being like, &#8220;Oh, this is what you guys are saying and this is how it&#8217;s making me feel.&#8221; Which is wild. I would&#8217;ve been terrified to do this five years ago. It was still too raw. But at this point, I think I&#8217;m a little bit more removed from it. I&#8217;m still being trolled, but I&#8217;m having more strength to say something.</p>
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<p><span><strong>Wow. I had 100 percent expected you to tell me the trolling had died down, or even that some people had apologized for it.</strong></span></p>
<p>Oh, no, there&#8217;s definitely been no apologies. Maybe after this record there will be some. But I would expect that there would also be more trouble. Some people just need someone to blame. They need that. There&#8217;s very little actual <em>thinking</em> that&#8217;s going on with these people.</p>
<p><strong>You said five years ago you would&#8217;ve been terrified to put out a record like this. Are you scared now that it could re-stoke some of the trolls&#8217; flames?</strong></p>
<p>Yes. I <em>am</em> scared. But every time I think about it, it&#8217;s like, why shouldn&#8217;t I release it? Because I&#8217;m scared? Is that a good reason to not release it? No. It&#8217;s my truth. And I think it can be empowering to a lot of people that are [in a tough situation] because it&#8217;s liberating. There are so many more reasons <em>to</em> release it. And I don&#8217;t want to live in fear. I think this is a big step towards me overcoming that fear-based living. This muzzled me for so long. I want to walk in freedom and live my truth.</p>
<p><strong>There&#8217;s so much misogyny at the core of all this &#8220;fan&#8221; hate. I know this is not the exact same situation, but I think about how 30 years later, Courtney Love is still being blamed for Kurt Cobain&#8217;s death&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, those things are hard to shake. They&#8217;re sort of imprinted, especially when it comes to a very prominent male figure. Good luck trying to get rid of that. That&#8217;s a whole other conversation about prominent male figures and the women that are affiliated with them. &#8230; Like, I can list off so many <em>male</em> musicians that were very close to Michael and Prince and worked with them far more than I ever worked with them, knew them more deeply, and yet, <em>they&#8217;re</em> not getting accused. It&#8217;s very misogynist. &#8230; I think it has to do with power. It&#8217;s historically this idea of a powerful man and then the women clinging to that to get whatever they can from it. It&#8217;s this idea that the woman must have poor intentions, just because she is less powerful. &#8230; The one that has less power is always considered a user or out to get something, because people can&#8217;t ever comprehend the idea of mutual collaboration or the coming-together of minds, regardless of money. People see everything in terms of money and power. We live in a very capitalistic-driven world. It&#8217;s like everyone&#8217;s seeking out money, power, and fame, and that&#8217;s all they can see. They can&#8217;t comprehend any sort of other dynamic.</p>
<p><strong>Did making <em>Letters From a Black Widow</em> bring any closure for you?</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, but for me, this record is about so much more than just [Prince or Jackson]. It&#8217;s really about me grappling with shame. It&#8217;s an autobiographical story for me, dealing with my own demons. I feel that&#8217;s so much more important to talk about. And as an artist, I want to create art that allows other people to explore deeper emotions. Not every song has to be about partying and dancing, but we can still create funk music, soul music, that explores deeper themes. I want to do that for my audience and for myself. I don&#8217;t think this will be the last time I explore deeper issues, because that&#8217;s essentially who I am as an artist. But yeah, I think that addressing [the social media backlash] was a big step for me. And I finally did it.</p>
<p><strong>Sorry if this is a strange question, but what do you think Prince would think of this record?</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great question. I mean, I can&#8217;t even imagine how he would feel about all the trolling that&#8217;s happened. But I do remember having conversations with him about trolling, and he had had a different approach to it. He was a little thicker-skinned than me! I would be really bothered [about some comment or tweet], and he&#8217;d be like, &#8220;Well, they&#8217;re <em>talking</em> about you, right? Put out another song!&#8221; His relationship with it was more like, give the middle finger and get back out there. I&#8217;m a little more sensitive about it. &#8230; And I&#8217;m still very sensitive, but this is my first time of being like, &#8220;You know what? I&#8217;m just going to stand on my truth.&#8221; It is a little bit of <em>my</em> middle finger, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>What did you learn about yourself when making this album, in terms of your resilience? On the track &#8220;Dame de la Lumiere&#8221; there&#8217;s a key line: &#8220;Bad times make strong women.&#8221; I&#8217;m thinking that needs to be on your T-shirts and merch.</strong></p>
<p>Ha, yes, totally. I&#8217;ve realized I&#8217;m a lot stronger than I thought I was. And really, that is the takeaway. That is the thesis of the album: Bad times make strong women. In &#8220;Dame de la Lumiere,&#8221; we are celebrating all the women in my lineage, powerful women who have overcome so much, and letting that be a message to every other woman out there who may be afraid to speak up or feel muted or like they don&#8217;t have power. Just saying: &#8220;You&#8217;re a badass. You&#8217;re going to be fine.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s a powerful coming-of-age album that speaks to where I&#8217;m at now. I&#8217;m older now, and sometimes we don&#8217;t hear songs coming from that. Pop music is all very youth-driven. I love this record because it&#8217;s a chance for me to talk about motherhood, a chance for me to talk about the sacrifices I&#8217;ve made as a single woman, as a career woman. It&#8217;s like, &#8220;Do I freeze my eggs?&#8221; These are the real questions that I have to ask myself. There&#8217;s a biological clock. And I&#8217;ve always chosen this road, which I love, but also I have a song on there called &#8220;Let Me Be Your Mother,&#8221; which is asking permission to be someone&#8217;s mother. At this point, I am saying, &#8220;I promise you can trust me&#8221; to the kid. &#8220;I promise I&#8217;ve gotten all the mistakes out of my system and you can trust me to enter this world.&#8221; There&#8217;s a lot of themes in the album that speak to just being a woman, and being a career woman, navigating power and navigating all these things.</p>
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<p><strong>&#8220;Runaway Train&#8221; addresses this too. Do you ever regret the path you took, prioritizing music and being on the road, and putting other things on the back burner?</strong></p>
<p>Sometimes I regret that I didn&#8217;t get married earlier. I do think that it would&#8217;ve been nice to have a support and a family at this point in my life. So, actually, I&#8217;ll be honest: I <em>do</em> regret that. I feel like now it&#8217;s a lot harder. I&#8217;m also an introvert, so it&#8217;s hard to meet people. It just becomes harder and harder.</p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s also an ageist business. You&#8217;ve been doing this for a while and you&#8217;ve had success, but now, as you near 40, is there any panic or concern about being aged out of the youth-obsessed music industry?</strong></p>
<p>I think that that&#8217;s a great question, because I have that anxiety a lot. But I also feel really militant about being the <em>antithesis</em> to that ageism. I want to be somebody that you see in their seventies killing it and singing the blues. I want to show that to people, to young artists, because we&#8217;re all being programmed to believe that the only justification to a career in music is fame and celebrity — and if you don&#8217;t have that, then you don&#8217;t have the legs to be an artist. And I think that&#8217;s a very poisonous message.</p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s odd to me that you went on <em>The Voice</em>, then, because talent shows like that are all about selling the dream of overnight stardom and success, and how that dream will come true if you can just win a record deal or get on television.</strong></p>
<p>Well, that was about 10 years ago, and yeah, 10 years ago I <em>was</em> sort of chasing the system. And I did have hopes that the system would support me. But then working with Prince changed that, because he told me: &#8220;You don&#8217;t need the system. I&#8217;m going to show you what it looks like to not be in the system, to be so autonomous and so clear about what you want to do that they will never be able to age you out or stop you — as long as you decide that you don&#8217;t need what they have. If you can get to that point, you can go on forever.&#8221; And that&#8217;s one of the biggest, if not <em>the</em> biggest, lesson he taught me. So, yes, I was chasing the system 10 years ago. But then I realized: I will always be doing this, regardless of the system.</p>
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		<title>Judith Hill Talks Life After Prince: &#8216;The Grief Will Always Be There&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2018 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little over two years ago, The Voice/20 Feet From Stardom diva Judith Hill’s life was struck by tragedy, when her mentor, Prince — producer of her acclaimed 2015 album Back in Time — shockingly passed away at age 57. (Hill later revealed that she had been with Prince on his flight from Atlanta, the one that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>A little over two years ago, <em>The Voice</em>/<em>20 Feet From Stardom</em> diva Judith Hill’s life was struck by tragedy, when her mentor, Prince — producer of her acclaimed 2015 album <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/judith-hill-on-jamming-with-prince-remembering-004526004.html"><em>Back in Time</em></a> — shockingly passed away at age 57. (Hill later revealed that <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/judith-hill-reveals-she-was-on-princes-plane-the-014647528.html">she had been with Prince on his flight from Atlanta</a>, the one that made an emergency landing after he fell unconscious six days before his death.) Hill has laid relatively low since then — performing and touring regularly, but not releasing any new music. But now she’s back, first with last month’s “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS_KY_Y-V5k">The Pepper Club</a>” and now with “On the Rocks,” the latter premiering here on Yahoo Entertainment. Both tracks have an uptown-funky vibe that seems directly influenced by His Purple Majesty, but Hill explains says that’s more of a subconscious artistic evolution than a deliberate decision.</p>
<p>“It&#8217;s funny when people say that, because I don&#8217;t even know if or when that [happens],” Hill muses,  citing the Staple Singers as a direct “On the Rocks” inspiration. “I guess it&#8217;s just innately something that he is just a natural influence of mine. He&#8217;s so deep in my heart. But I never sit down and say, like, ‘Oh, I&#8217;m going to do a Prince-inspired thing.’”</p>
<div id="attachment_3078640" style="width: 660px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3078640" src="https://media.zenfs.com/creatr-images/GLB/2018-06-26/f3f773b0-7982-11e8-8425-dd6137900220_jhill_pic06_lg.jpg" alt="" width="650" height="487" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Judith Hill (Photo: Smallz and Raskind)</p></div>
<p>“On the Rocks” is decidedly upbeat and celebratory, but looking back on the past two years since the traumatizing plane incident and Prince&#8217;s death, Hill confesses, “I was grieving. It was hard to release [music], just because of just grief and feeling like I was reminded a lot of him.&#8221; When asked how she’s coping these days, she pauses, then answers thoughtfully: “I&#8217;m doing good. I&#8217;ll never be the same. The grief will always be there. But every day I get stronger, just learning to live in this new space of having that feeling inside, but finding a way to turn it into power and giving back. It&#8217;s actually a new thing, like I&#8217;ve never had that before, but it&#8217;s what is supposed to happen in my life. So, I&#8217;m really finding a path to taking that energy and really transforming it into love and giving.”</p>
<p>Hill plans to do that via her upcoming ambitious musical production <em>The Golden Child</em>, a “funk live concert-meets-ballet” that celebrates “diversity and inclusion in the world, cultures coming together” and will feature a cast of dancers representing different parts of the world. “A lot of the music was written during the time when [Prince] was still with us; he actually got a chance to hear it, and he was really excited for it. But it&#8217;s been hard to release it since then. Now I&#8217;m in a more celebratory place,” Hill says. The show, which premieres in November, will be accompanied by a 13-track album (separate from “On the Rocks”), released on her own Gloryhill label. Hill will star in the production, playing the grown-up version of titular character, and she’s in talks to bring <em>The Golden Child</em> to the screen as well.</p>
<div id="attachment_3078646" style="width: 783px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3078646" src="https://media.zenfs.com/creatr-images/GLB/2018-06-26/326fbb20-7983-11e8-9b2d-91df10cbf865_jhill_pic03_lg.jpg" alt="" width="773" height="1031" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Judith Hill (Photo: Randee St. Nicholas)</p></div>
<p>Hill says the project (which “tells the story of the Golden Child, which is basically about a child who steps into a world where he finds people that are divided by color — but they learn to overcome that and celebrate each other as they come together&#8221;) was inspired by the division in our nation right now, as well as by her experiences as a biracial artist.</p>
<p>“Me being black and Japanese, I&#8217;ve always felt like I belong to everybody and I belong to nobody, because I was in the middle,” Hill says. “It’s not been overt, but there&#8217;s always been a question: ‘Where can we categorize Judith? Where does she belong?’ So, I really wanted to create a platform where inviting all these people from my experiences around the world to come together. And rather than feeling like a black sheep, I really wanted to just bring everybody into one space and just celebrate everybody. &#8230; Now that I&#8217;m able to release [music], I realize that my message to the world, and my calling in life, is really to bring people together and overcome hate. That is what I feel empowered to do now.”</p>
<p>Prince’s death isn’t the only heartbreak to affect Hill’s career. Seven years before that, she lost another mentor, Michael Jackson, just as she was set to perform with him at that year’s much-hyped <em>This Is It</em> concerts in London. (She ended up <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd4UXi5n1V0">singing “Heal the World” at Jackson’s memorial service instead</a>, then temporarily retreated from the public eye to heal.) Hill feels her new music addresses both tragedies.</p>
<p>“Part of this new project is about reaching towards God and really finding Him. That&#8217;s the ultimate answer to that question, is you&#8217;re forced to really realize that there&#8217;s so much more to life than what the eye can see,” she says. “When we come to the end of ourselves as human beings, and we realize that we&#8217;re not in control and it&#8217;s really not up to us, then that&#8217;s when you really are humbled before God. You really get to see Him in a different way. I think with music, that is the ultimate gateway into talking to God. There is something very spiritual about music. It&#8217;s something that brings people together, but it is also something that can really move people in such a powerful way, where they can experience God.</p>
<p>&#8220;With both of these incredible human beings [Jackson and Prince], I felt that onstage with them. And I know that they&#8217;re doing it right now — even more powerful than they ever have done it. And so, it inspires me now, while I&#8217;m still on this planet, to continue on. And I know that the more we tap into God, the more He&#8217;ll reveal Himself, and the more powerful it will be for us here.”</p>
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		<title>Judith Hill on Jamming With Prince, Remembering Michael Jackson, and What &#8216;The Voice&#8217; Taught Her About America</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2015 06:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; You may remember backup singer Judith Hill from her star turn in the posthumous Michael Jackson documentary This Is It, during which she and the King of Pop thrillingly dueted on “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You,” or from her passionate “Heal the World” performance at Jackson’s subsequent memorial. Or maybe you remember her [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>You may remember backup singer Judith Hill from her star turn in the posthumous Michael Jackson documentary This Is It, during which she and the King of Pop thrillingly dueted on “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You,” or from her passionate “Heal the World” performance at Jackson’s subsequent memorial. Or maybe you remember her from the Oscar-winning 20 Feet From Stardom, in which she held her own alongside backup-singing legends like Darlene Love and Merry Clayton. And if neither of those ring a bell, then you probably know her as the four-chair frontrunner of The Voice Season 4.</p>
<p>Hill has already worked with some of the best in the business, but she still isn’t quite a household name. However, now the distance between her and stardom is about to get a lot shorter. Not only is she finally officially releasing her debut album, Back in Time, but the album was a collaboration with yet another superstar: the one and only Prince. His Great Purple Majesty invited Hill to his fabled Paisley Park studio in Minneapolis after randomly catching a TV interview with Hill, in which she spoke of her dream to work with him.</p>
<p>“He said, ‘I’d like to call Judith,’ and he reached out to my management,” Hill recalls incredulously. “He personally called me on my cell phone. It was an unknown number. Oh, they prepped me. They said, &#8216;Prince is going to call you today.’ I was shaking.”</p>
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<p>True to the title Back in Time, the album’s whirlwind recording process was old-school: all-analog, and the result of freeform Paisley Park jam sessions. “It was so inspiring and refreshing, because it was like going back to the old days of just jamming… just hit &#8216;record,’ one take, organic. Nothing was too overthought, just what we felt at the time,” Hill tells Yahoo Music. “His process is really amazing, and I learned a lot… He pushes you to excellence and he just wants the best for you. And he lives in a whole &#8216;nother world. So it rubs off on you, and you just grow so much musically.”</p>
<p>Now that Hill has worked with two of the 1980s’ greatest musical icons – Michael Jackson and Prince – she sees a common thread between them when it comes to work ethic. “There’s a lot of great similarities in terms of their epicness and how they approach things,” she says. “The attention to detail, being very specific about everything they want. They see the big picture and they’re very involved. I just learned as an artist that it’s so important to be hands-on.”</p>
<p>Many people assumed that Hill’s brilliant performance at Jackson’s 2009 memorial, which was watched by an estimated 2.5 billion people worldwide, would have been her big break, but Hill deliberately adopted a low profile during that media frenzy. “That was a very tragic and crazy time,” she recalls. “We were thrown into the limelight in a weird way. All of a sudden, there was a film that came out about us rehearsing. I look back at that chapter and it’s so bittersweet. Because it’s like, man, Michael Jackson, the King of Pop, the beautiful last few hours that we spent with him and what he shared with us. It was a circus after he died, it really was. We were caught in the whirlwind. I was really young and green at the time, and it was kind of scary.”</p>
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Four years later, Hill got another break via The Voice, and she was the one to watch from the season’s very first episode. But then she was voted off in eighth place, in what is still widely considered one of the biggest shockers in Voice history. You may recall that was night that her coach, Adam Levine, got in hot water for blurting out “I hate this country!” – his unscripted, furious reaction to seeing Hill and another one of his talented contestants, Sarah Simmons, go home.</p>
<p>“I learned a lot about America that week,” Hill chuckles now, referring to her apparently polarizing decision to perform a funked-up version of Justin Bieber and will.i.am’s “#that POWER,” which was major departure from her previous ballads. “That’s the thing about that show – you learn so much about your country, and who you are to your country. That was an interesting experience – like, yeah, OK, if you try something a little riskier, you might lose Middle America. [I learned about] finding the part that is relatable about me to the world and really simplifying that.”</p>
<p>But everything has its way of working out. Hill, now 31 years old, says, “I wanted to celebrate the funk that week, and it’s funny that we’ve come to the funk now, with me doing a funk record with Prince.” [One track on Back in Time, “Turn It Up,” even amusingly features Prince yelling in the background, “Omigod, Judith, I saw you on The Voice!”] “So I got to finally do it. But maybe The Voice wasn’t the place for that.”</p>
<p>Watch Hill perform a stripped-down version of Back in Time’s lead single, “Cry, Cry, Cry,” above.</p>
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